I have copies at home. Since I'm planning on running home for lunch in about half an hour, I can send you the pertinent information.

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THANKS! (Tossing flower petals in the air and tootling on the trumpet to celebrate) ((Yes, I am fairly loopy as I near the end of this, I hope and pray.))

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Abebooks has a listing for New Destinies IX and I think this one is VI.

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According to http://www-users.cs.york.ac.uk/susan/sf/books/b/jimbaen.htm#4819 Wheel Days is vol VII not VI

This appears to be the following:
9780671698157
New Destinies
Jim Baen
ISBN 10: 067169815X / 0-671-69815-X
ISBN 13: 9780671698157
Publisher: Baen Books
Publication Date: 1989
Binding: Softcover

Newdestinies 9 is

9780671720162
New Destinies IX
Jim Baen
ISBN 10: 0671720163 / 0-671-72016-3
ISBN 13: 9780671720162
Publisher: Baen Books
Publication Date: 1990
Binding: Softcover

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Many thanks!! (I was wrong yet again. I should get used to it...)

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I found this information on Ebay according to the Ebay date for VI it is Winter 1988. Two different ISBN listed on VI. ISBN-13: 9780671697969 and the other is
ISBN-10: 067169796X

For IX, it is 1990 and the two ISBN numbers are: ISBN-13: 9780671720162
and ISBN-10: 0671720163

Neither description listed page numbers for your story, but I hope that helps some. They had two copies of VI on Ebay and one of IX if you want to repurchase the copies for your library. I wasn't sure which ISBN you needed, so I put both.

I hope that helps.

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Oh, wow, that is WONDERFUL!! Thank you!

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As noted above, you aren't in VI, but rather in VII. Full bibliographic information coming in e-mail.

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Thanks!

(OTOH, O Blast, because I had "claimed" and "managed" VI and was just waiting for the page numbers. Now I have to go back and delete that one...whine, whine.)

Interesting addendum for anyone messing with this...watch it, because sometimes the "save" button doesn't. Save twice to be sure. As for page numbers for anthology contents, forget about them until the "manage" stage, because in the earlier "asserting rights" stage, any page numbers you enter will vanish and you'll have to enter them *again*. Also, the google-bots sometimes throw in an edition they hadn't listed before and you won't have "managed" it. Managing is where you get to say "No, you can't do this, this, this, this, or this..." Or, if you want, where you can say "This but not this" or "Sure, do everything." Be alert to date/times (listed on the right side) and always unpack the packed ones that say "similar results" because there's where, today, I've found things that were not there yesterday. I'm on my fourth full-scale look at every item on each of the ten pages and about six things so far popped up since yesterday.

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If you claim an insert in error, there's a small box in the "manage" screen that says if you claimed in error, you can remove it. THAT link actually works. (Among the links that don't, in the "asserting rights" screen for inserts, there should be a link to the definitions of complete and partial inserts--the links look live to your mouse--but clicking them does nothing.)

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No email yet...(she's perched on the inbox, wondering if he'll email...somehow that doesn't have the same ring as the old "waits by the phone...") (ouch. "ring" pun unintended.)

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Sent to your sff.net e-mail address.

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And received and replied to...many, many thanks. Since someone else had provided a 13 digit ISBN, I used that instead of the one ending in X, but aside from that and the mistakes fatigue makes inevitable...I'm a few details away from being done.

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Sure thing. If you have any others to check, look them up at Ebay and click on details and they list author, publication date, and ISBN numbers (usually). Glad to help you get what you deserve. :)

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Given the massive amount of effort you're having to go to, and given that there are other authors with even MORE stories to protect ... has Harlan Ellison weighed in on the subject yet?

My partner is working on this today; this may be the only time he's been glad that someone else owns the rights to most of his work! (And to be honest--who knows if they're protecting it. :-/)

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I would like to see Ellison's response. I would guess that the adjectives "measured" and "calm" would not be used to describe it. (Unlike our host, whose patience is impressive to say the least.)

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I'm finding that some of my publishers have entered as co-claimants on some things, but nobody has on all of them. For one anthology I'm in, several other writers have entered as claimants for their stories in one iteration of the title, but not in the others.

In all cases of novels, and in the case of recent and "higher-end" anthologies, I'm facing 4-10 separate entries, each of which must be "claimed," have rights "asserted," and "managed" individually. It's quixotic in the extreme. Sometimes UK editions are treated as the book being commercially unavailable in the US (despite the US edition with the same title) but in other cases it's not. Sometimes two identical titles/dates of publication are treated differently...one being considered commercially available and the other one not. (The difference is that you have to *turn off* all the uses if it's not commercially available. Or, I did, because if you just remove the book from Google's clutches, the automatic checkmarks allowing them to do stuff are still there, just pale. I don't trust that. I uncheck everything manually and *then* check "remove". And then save. And then look again, because sometimes the "save" button seems to not actually save.)

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http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/m/elizabeth-moon/

Somebody may have already referenced that. If so, apologies for duplicate. :)

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selenite owns them, I just pulled them off the shelf.

New Destinies VI, Winter Edition 1988. (Robert A. Heinlein Memorial Issue) ISBN 0-671-69796-X. Um, you must have the wrong number - because neither of those stories is in that volume's table of contents.

New Destinies IX, Fall 1990, ISBN 0-671-72016-3
"Risks of Memory", pp. 7-29

AHA! Found it! New Destinies Volume VII, Spring 1989, ISBN 0-671-69815-X
Elizabeth Moon, "Welcome to Wheel Days", pp. 154-175.

Boy I'm glad I could find that. I hope it helps.

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The _New Destinies_ volumes are now entered, with page numbers.

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Women At War, ed. Bujold
hb info:
0312857926
978-0312857929
your story pp 368-384

pb info:
978-0812544589
don't have a physical copy in the store, sorry.

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I have the trade pb of Women at War, and her story "Hand to Hand" is pgs
292-304

LOC 95-35362
ISBN 0-812-544587

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Locus has a directory of short stories...

http://www.locusmag.com/index/

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Apologies for butting in. I have read some of your books in the past, but you don't know me. I found your posts on the Google Book Settlement in a search engine. If I understand what you are doing correctly, you are aiming to claim all your works so as to have them removed from Google's database.

Unfortunately, in the case of short stories in multi-authored collections, which the settlement agreement terms 'inserts', there is no provision for ordering them to be removed, or not digitized. (Section 3.5(a)(i) refers only to books.)

Worse, though it is possible for an author to have 'inserts' removed from 'display uses', it is not possible to have them removed from what the agreement calls 'revenue models', defined as 'institutional subscriptions, consumer purchases, advertising uses, public access service and any other revenue models agreed between the Registry and Google'. (See Section 3.5(b)(i).) So any stories you have in anthologies, Google can sell or give away access to them, run ads alongside them, or exploit them in any other ways the Registry may be persuaded to agree to: and you have no rights to stop this. Only the editor/publisher of the work can do that.

The only real choice with inserts is to opt out before close of business tomorrow (this can be done even after claiming your works): but that leaves you relying a) on Google keeping to their promise to remove the work of people who opt out and ask them to do this and b) assuming goodwill on their part, Google's actually managing to find your works and remove them. I increasingly suspect they are nearly as much over their heads with the administrative side of this project as all the people out here blogging or writing to the court about their problems claiming their works. (And of course, they won't have the motivation to persist that you do.)

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Yes, I was aware of the hole in the bucket that the original Settlement judge allowed...but I still could, and did, remove all display options.

It is my fervent hope (and that of a number of other writers plus entities such as the German government) that the Settlement is wiped out and a more intelligent or honest judge says "No, you can't treat copyright as your personal doormat, to be walked on at your pleasure."

If not, not.

I trust Google's "intentions" (to respect the rights of writers in future) about as much as I trust the intentions of a child molester who, after being caught, claims to "intend" not to molest any more children, but one plays the hand one's dealt.

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Google have already completely ignored at least one of the provisions in the settlement agreement, the one that says that as part of the notice programme the settlement agreement should be 'translated from English whenever appropriate' - it hasn't been translated at all, apparently. Moreover, the court order granting preliminary approval explicitly directed that the arrangements in that part of the settlement agreement should be carried out: so in addition to breaking the settlement agreement at the very outset of the whole process, they have disregarded a court order. One may deduce their likely intentions just from that, I think.

Anyway, I apologise for butting in with advice you didn't need.

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That's OK. I also don't trust their intentions, but did not want to risk that the Settlement would be approved as it stands. Every once in awhile, enough biting midges can drive the biggest baddest bear into a hole...I'm hoping that we become enough biting midges.

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I just wish, as a reader who would vastly prefer that good authors could spent their time writing good books instead of on all of this BUMF, that there were a way to start a mass boycott of Google.

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There's always a letter barrage. Not email--they're internet savvy and well protected. But hard copy sometimes (not always) works. I'm working on mine.

And I'm still using the Google search engine.

Someone's pointed out elsewhere (I think it was elsewhere--I'm now becoming as confused as I look) that the Gutenberg Project has been digitizing the truly public domain and rare books for years, with volunteer labor, and providing them online at no cost. Google's apparent aim is to become the sole legitimate provider of digitized library materials...which would or could make the Gutenberg Project (which predated them) illegal.

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Article in the NY Times this morning, 9/11/09

Copyright Office Assails Google’s Settlement on Digital Books
By MIGUEL HELFT
In testimony before a House panel, Marybeth Peters, the Register of Copyrights, said the deal circumvented copyright law and could harm authors.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/11/technology/internet/11books.html?th&emc=th

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