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2011-04-26 01:45 pm (UTC)
More For Me!
Hooray for book and short story sales!
2011-04-26 10:09 pm (UTC)
Re: More For Me!
I second that emotion!
That proposed passport form is insane. Your mothers address the year before you were born???? I doubt one in one hundred could come up with that.
That proposed passport application is an alternative form for people who can't provide the normally required documents, or maybe for those whose documents aren't satisfactory in some way. It isn't something that the average person applying for a passport would have to fill out. The documentation about it says they expect about 74,000 people to have to fill it out. (14 million passports are given out each year.)
People who can't provide proper documentation have a lot of trouble getting passports now. Is this proposed form better or worse than what they go through currently?
Wow, the comments on the page linked are ugly. The fact they are leaving them up says a lot about the reliability of the source.
2011-04-26 06:00 pm (UTC)
State Dept form seems targeted at those presenting insufficient or questionable claims to U.S. citizenship. Presumably it helps to know where Mom was living before you were born, in the U.S. or out of it. So it might be a necessary piece of information, whether or not it is easy to get. Similarly, christenings, witnesses, etc. might be available to support a claim of citizenship. It sounds like a pain to fill out but presumably would allow those to track more easily if someone does have a real claim but is missing paperwork. Website seems to be turning it into an anti-Obama rant.
The problem is that people being targeted did not know in a timely way that this information would be needed. Take any child born in to a military member or spouse who was stationed abroad at the time, and who has since died. They might or might not have been born in a military hospital...births occur when they occur (family stationed in Germany is vacationing in Switzerland and little Joey pops out there instead.) A military hospital would have the records...maybe. Remember that GWB's records disappeared from the archives. Military records are voluminous and subject to fire, flood, and downright misfiling. US citizens traveling abroad may give birth somewhere they didn't plan to, as well, with or without medical help and with or without bringing home (and keeping forever) the fact that it was Dr. Jones in Greymouth, NZ.
Similarly, people born here in this country may not have the "right" paperwork if records have been lost or destroyed, and parents or other relatives have died. I could not give my mother's address for the entire year before my birth other than "somewhere near Chicago in a trailer camp where a lot of people working in the defense industries were during WWII." In the last months, she was back in her father's house (about 400 miles from where I live now) but a) he's dead, b) the house no longer exists (so I have only the vaguest memory of it) and I have no idea what the address was, and c) if there are records of it, I don't know where they are or how to look for them.
It amounts to an ex post facto law: yeah, there was no such rule at the time you did/didn't do this, but now there is, and the penalty for not having foreseen the law will fall on you. It is unfair to those who did not know they were supposed to have that info, and who are going to be presumed not to qualify as citizens or deserving of a passport if they can't drag it up.
As for the website: my interest was and is in the regulation, not other peoples' comments.
People who had parents who moved a lot during their childhoods are also going to have a problem resurrecting addresses. I doubt that I could even manage accurate addresses for my college and grad school days, let alone my childhood - much of which was spent in Asia. Come to think of it that would be a flag for all sorts of hassle just by itself. Both of my parents are dead. I do know that they had several short term rentals around the time I was born. So if I had to fill out this form I just couldn't.